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06-15-2017, 02:38 AM
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Everyone has to click that image and be taken to the album because this even was quite A TRIP.

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06-15-2017, 02:41 AM
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How does Fortuna function? Is it a suggestion comic? And if so where do i input my commands?
08-23-2017, 09:20 PM
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(08-23-2017, 09:20 PM)Angustine Wrote: How does Fortuna function? Is it a suggestion comic? And if so where do i input my commands?
The fortuna adventure is actually a story spun around a famous let's play from the game fortuna.
08-23-2017, 09:26 PM
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@Angustine
Fortuna is a suggestion comic, sadly you caught us at a weird time cause the redux will be moving forward soon so that basically means suggestions will be down for a bit, except for the redux. Normally you suggest in the [Fortuna] topic.

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08-24-2017, 12:08 AM
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Is the Cosmodex Fortuna not complete? Since i can't seem to progress byond the big red snake dog.
08-25-2017, 03:15 AM
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it's not. that's the "redux" which gime is getting gradually done

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08-25-2017, 04:27 AM
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Yep the redux is not finished but is getting done. Hopefully it'll be done in my estimated 6 months but I can't give any promises.

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08-25-2017, 07:54 PM
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Can someone find the savescum intermission? I skimmed all 99 pages, but I think it was in spoilers so I missed it.
12-01-2017, 02:24 AM
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What happened in the save scum intermission, I can't remember that intermission?

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12-01-2017, 06:44 AM
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So Mors explains to Hermes how to record things by touching them. Hermes experiences a glitch, and everything is reset, except him and Mors.
At some point, Mors explains that the player is a savescummer.

This was likely some time before, or after the Kelda's Hotel debuted.
12-01-2017, 06:52 PM
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Apollo found it!
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12-07-2017, 03:31 AM
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Bumping the pit so it's more visible. This is the discussion topic for Fortuna, feel free to post anything here. Going to be locking the other topic for a little bit while the redux and other matters are worked on.

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Today I was able to locate the very first Joke non canon Inter-Mission. All the awful spelling is on perpose. You can see that this joke intermission would end up hinting to future events that would happen, like most of the intermissions.

Enjoy this train wreck I thought died with the MSPAFourms.



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Excuse you all, it's time for an intermission.


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Your name is Apollo and you have been banished to the shadow relem 4 no good reason, like honestly you killed a guy so what??? The worst part about being banished to the shadow relam is that for some reason a dragonfly and a stupid clown keeps following you around.



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Also 4 some reason giant unknown terrors of the shadow relme keep chasing you, you don't know what's up with that.




GameLord;7546145 Wrote:>Giant Horrorterrors: Attack Apollo
>Apollo: Surrender
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You just give the fuck up. You're so done with running so much, you don't even know why you're running away so much. All it did was some how take your eye and half your mouth somehow? That was no where near as bad as you thought it would be.



Apo11o;7546147 Wrote:>Open your mouth and swallow that motherfucker whole what do you MEAN you don't have a mouth what kind of robot doesn't have a mouth this is bullshit


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The fuck bro. Another one comes at you but you get so pissed off you try to bite it's face off.


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2 bad you don't have a mouth so it looks like you're trying to make out with it. The monster gets so embarrassed it just ollies out of there.



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You decide to keep walking forward cause you have nothing else to do. The clown thing walks backwards to change it up, you think it's stupid. The clown not the walking backwards thing. You find a paper on the floor and decide to pick it up cause it's honestly the only thing not trying to murder you somehow here.


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Oh no it's a picture of this asshole. This freaking asshole caused all of your issues. You would be so much better if they didn't come in to your life.



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Just in case you couldn't tell who you were talking about.



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You decide to just stand in the great emptiness of the shadow relems. You honestly don't know why you even try anymore. Your dragonfly friend(?????????) is trying to tell you a thing, though you don't know what it is.




Wessolf27;7546172 Wrote:Your friend is a liar. U should just kill it.
Apo11o;7546175 Wrote:>Then feed the dragonfly to the clown because really what is it even trying to say SPEAK UP SON you're only going to give a dude a headache at this rate. Or a CPUache, something like that. Robots man.

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You grab your friend(?????) and tell them you're going to kill them. For no reason really other then they're so going to lie to you or something. Your friends always lie to you. The dragonfly says you cannot kill it.





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Because it is already dead.






Apo11o;7546175 Wrote:>Decide to rename yourself Half-face because you now have half a face. Holy SHIT you're mindblown because that was literally the most creative fucking thing you ever came up with. Declare this to your loser companions.


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You let it go cause you just give up, nothing ever goes your way. You tell the dragonfly you're thinking of naming yourself half face and it tells you it doesn't care cause you're a jerk and you're going to lose all your friends if you keep treating them like shit and expecting them to care about you. This makes you sad.





Beastnix;7546181 Wrote:>There is a hole here, a small one, right there, LISTEN bro


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You run away from the both of them. It's not fair, you should be able to treat your friends like shit and then be able to have them love and care for you, why else would you even have friends 4???????

The dragonfly tells you to get off the random pile of whatever you are on and deal with your problems like a robot. You say no. They say maybe if you had listened to them instead of trying to murder them maybe you would have heard about the giant rip in the shadow relmae. You know maybe the one you could maybe just jump out of???


athenasGuardian;7546242 Wrote:Pile: Be dead spacekraken

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For some reason you stop what you're doing to check what the pile is made of. Yep it's dead bodies. Whatever man this is a normal weekend for you.





the-angry-badger;7546188 Wrote:> You're in the shadow realm, just walk through the atmosphere up to it. Physics doesnt count here.
Professor zobot;7546282 Wrote:>Just jump out of it.

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Look at this shit. No no, don't look away. You know what still makes sense in the shadow relmde? Physics. You are so done right now. You're no longer going to take orders from you. I mean look at me. Look at me just slam my face right in to the floor. This is all your fault. This is what happens when I listen to your orders man.





the-angry-badger;7546188 Wrote:>Thank the dragonfly for the advice and help. You get better at being a friend by practising.

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I'm not going to thank the dragonfly for their advice. Their advice was useless, I would have totally seen that giant rip in space sooner or later you know in some point in the next 50 years maybe.






Purple Walrus;7546244 Wrote:>Man that dragonfly sure is a great counsellor. I wonder who she is *wink* wink* [COLOR="#FFFFFF"] it's Theylla[/COLOR]
Apo11o;7546191 Wrote:>Tenderly KISS the dragonfly on the whole body probably dragonflies are pretty small let's be fair. But, I mean you already more or less made out with a monster so why not right? You clearly don't have anything left to lose anyway, what's a bit of smooching between friends in appreciation for them helping you out?
>... You could kiss the clown dude too, I guess, but I mean I don't know if you'd want to do THAT too.

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Who the heck are you referring to? This dragonfly is Apollo Jr the 3rd. It is clearly a it like all bugs and no I will not makeout with it. You see what's happening here? You all are clearly running out of things to say.






GameLord;7546195 Wrote:>Giant Horrorterror: Attack Apollo again. This time, stealth attack.

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Fuck my life. I can't walk 10 feet without having someone throwing a paper at me.



nonexistentPumpkin;7546343 Wrote:>What even is that clown thing anyway? It doesn't even look close to species in the Cosmodex.
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Why in the world would clowns even be in the dex? Clowns are a job title not a species!






Beastnix;7546354 Wrote:>don't worry, I still like you.

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Well I don't like you.







OrangeAipom;7546347 Wrote:Oh, and hey Apollo. We met another Hermes model and he's a lot less bitter than you. We like him a lot more.
> Throw the paper back without reading it.
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Why would you say you don't like me? That may or may not deeply hurt my feelings.... Also seeing as I'm no longer following your orders I'm going to go ahead and read this paper all I want. After all you're just a joke, a one-liner, a parody, prank, a ruse, you see what I'm getting at here? What I'm saying is that everything that is happening at this moment is nothing but a shaggy-dog story.




nonexistentPumpkin;7546343 Wrote:>Code-Bug Pal: Be in the intermission
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These are the sort of things no being should see.





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Oh great it's the twins. They'll likely want to strike some sort of deal with me. Time to play dead.




GameLord;7546428 Wrote:>Twins: Punish Apollo

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I try to play dead but they aren't fooled. Likely because I'm openly monologing about everything that's happening out loud! Also nearly everyone in the shadow releem is dead anyway soooooooo there's that. I would have tried to attack them you see, but attacking them just doesn't work as well as you would guess it would.







Wessolf27;7546439 Wrote:>Shades dog and angelizard: Give Apollo a binding contract.


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The red brother, who I call the sleeper because he just sits on his butt all day and sleeps says he's going to strike a deal with me, also that he's off put I'm narrating his life in 1st person. He says that they'll allow me out of this place as long as I kill the big boss, which is of course Zeus. They want to play a game with the big boss, and they've heard I'm a pretty tough dude and as masters of the shadow releme they get to allow anyone they want out.






Beastnix;7546410 Wrote:>take the record deal so you can ascend
Blizz98;7546411 Wrote:>Maybe you should pretend to consider whatever deal they'll offer, man they won't see that coming.

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To be honest I was sort of getting used to all the piles of dead bodies and the constant being chased down like an animal thing. It was you know, just fabulous so I only fake accepted the deal. Too bad they took it as my approval and loaded me in to a catapult.


"Any last words Mr. R. Apollo?" The other one dares to ask me.



Beastnix;7547088 Wrote:>"You're next after Zeus"

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Ooooh yes that's a perfect one. You're next after Zeus is what I tell them. They seem to shrug. They don't seem to care one bit about death!






Blizz98;7547107 Wrote:>A long diatribe about how you how much you hate them.
Blastoking;7547067 Wrote:> Go on some fantastic rant of anger at them while getting launched.


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I start up a fabulous rant about them. One of them takes out a large stick and says, [COLOR="#FF0000"]"If you keep talking shit, you're going to get hit."[/COLOR] Look I'm not scared of a stick or anything but I'm just going to avoid this sort of thing you know? I'm just going to pick some other final words.






BigBrain;7547228 Wrote:"I think it's time..."

*Put on shades*
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I grab some random shades I brought off a guy and put them on. I think it's time






BigBrain;7547228 Wrote:"For the sun to rise."
*Get shot across sky*
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For the sun to rise.






FerociousFeind;7547204 Wrote:>ⒶÞ☼l۩ʘ/Apollo: try to go through that crack, despite its near probability of not existing
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Did I just land in a pile of kittens and toasters? What has happened to the universe while I've been gone? Is that cat wearing sunglasses?

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"Don't you get it?"





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"This was all a ruse."




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02-11-2018, 11:59 PM
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Yooo so I wrote this up in the discord and wanted to put the ideas out there

- Selene: May help keep Helios more stable, sibling stuff here. Patron powers are very worth all the risks.
- Hemera: No relationship info, but it's probably not that bad? Helpful though playthrough wise, but may summon AIs we've pissed off. Such is life.
- Mors: Probably so mad at us, and has done mean stuff, but works well with Helios. Good powers.
- Kratos: Might be good with Helios. Extremely good choice powers wise. Very Very Good for Overbuff The Captain choice.
- Opis: A good egg. Might be workable with Helios. Patron powers choice
- Circe: May annoy Helios, but may also cheer him up. Good patron powers, and will be fun to watch rolls get rigged.
- Coeus: Might annoy Helios, but good work relationship. Worthwhile patron power.

This is all regarding "what patron should we use with helios next game"

Also valid to consider is that we still have [Famous] trait, along with a number of other things we could do to buff Atheris, Nero, and our upcoming hybrids
Army mode, or a diff game mode could also be a consideration for our next crew.

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(02-16-2018, 04:50 PM)LoverIan Wrote: Yooo so I wrote this up in the discord and wanted to put the ideas out there

- Selene: May help keep Helios more stable, sibling stuff here. Patron powers are very worth all the risks.
- Hemera: No relationship info, but it's probably not that bad? Helpful though playthrough wise, but may summon AIs we've pissed off. Such is life.
- Mors: Probably so mad at us, and has done mean stuff, but works well with Helios. Good powers.
- Kratos: Might be good with Helios. Extremely good choice powers wise. Very Very Good for Overbuff The Captain choice.
- Opis: A good egg. Might be workable with Helios. Patron powers choice
- Circe: May annoy Helios, but may also cheer him up. Good patron powers, and will be fun to watch rolls get rigged.
- Coeus: Might annoy Helios, but good work relationship. Worthwhile patron power.

This is all regarding "what patron should we use with helios next game"

Also valid to consider is that we still have [Famous] trait, along with a number of other things we could do to buff Atheris, Nero, and our upcoming hybrids
Army mode, or a diff game mode could also be a consideration for our next crew.

With game 3 starting up it's a good time for us to start discussing:

- Patrons (Kratos or no Kratos?)
- Game Modes
- Fortuna Bonuses
- Game Bonuses
- Who will we use [FAMOUS] on, will we use it at all
- Will Atheris be a crew member
- Should we do a tutorial?
- Should we try co-op?
- What other player should we talk to

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Aetheris should definitely be a crew member, that's the plan. However on this page https://mspfa.com/?s=3646&p=7101 Eris says they'd rather we didn't pick Helios as a patron (I think. They might just be saying that they don't want to be patrons WITH Helios? In which case there's no problem). So we need to decide if we'll listen to them on that. Helios is a good patron.
Also the next game should probably have more planets, because there arent all that many games left until the universe ends, so the more planets, the more stuff we can do to try and change things.
Could also do a tutorial, but, I don't really see a point in doing that? Unless there are some past events which we want to try to influence.

Also, why would Mors hate us? He'd probably be annoyed to be our patron, but only because he'd consider his time better spent elsewhere. We're on his side with the whole Sun God thing, and we've aided him in the past. I think.
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(04-26-2018, 02:40 AM)Ten11 Wrote: Also the next game should probably have more planets, because there arent all that many games left until the universe ends, so the more planets, the more stuff we can do to try and change things.

The only downside to that is both that increasing the number of planets increases the length of how long a crew narrative takes to finish, and that the game gets harder with more planets.

I'm not against more planets, as if we do it correctly we can buy new ships to increase our options next game and leave behind characters to get additional hybrid options for the next game.

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Things:

- Having crewmembers leave the crew is a valid strat to both free up spots on the crew, but also as a way to secure hybrids
- This crew will start with a crafting machine, and we can craft in roomtraps. We can also roomtrap our patrons.
- Our culture god powers summon items from the future iirc

What we could do is specifically buy items from stores that we plan to summon into a roomtrap. If we see items we want to fuse in a roomtrap for future usage, we buy them, find a good time to roomtrap our patrons, inform them we just want to craft stuff, summon the respective items, craft them, and then end the roomtrap. Then we head over to the item, try to pick it up, oh no it's gone.
Worst case the crew thinks there's an anomaly stealing their shit.

- Also purebred shipping is powerful stat wise and has reduced red traits
- Hybrid ships are likely to get good green traits/abilities, but have more red traits. See Marble having sleep issues, but being a tank and an anti-psychic.

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There's no guaranteed that the game will take the item we bought at that particular moment, though. Fortuna's probably a smart enough game to realize it when we're gaming our power.

Purebreed shipping means we'll have the same species on crew twice, if not thrice. Hybrids are more intresting to have.

It's likely going to be hard to ship crew with npcs now that we don't have a relationship counselor like Cea. Without one, relationships generally develop over the course of multiple interactions IIRC.

If we wanted to we could still make the fauna into a relationship counselor, or assign the Xenobiologist to be one. Since they have [Jack of Trades] they could probably do an okayish job at relationship counseling. Heck, we may not even have to assign the job, just make them try to matchmake between a character and a crew.
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Ahh. I thought we were supposed to game our powers where we could.

That doesn't sound like a bad plan.

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Oh, we probably are supposed to game our powers. However, given the way fortuna is, the item might opt to disapear at an inoportunate moment, rather than when the character goes to pick it up.
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Hm. Then my plan would probably create a plothole, as:

Store has specific gun
We ask to see gun physically
We draw gun to summon
We gain Gun in patronspace
Gun has not been taken at that time
We buy gun
later at ship we look at gun once and never give it to anybody and ensure it never shows up again

this summon then must have been summoned at the time we saw it at the ship, or at another time. but since we forced it to never be relevant and thus not be a problem it cannot be summoned.
a plothole rips into the universe due to an unresolved usage of power.

I'm not sure what strategy we could entail to make having items disappear at crucial moments be an asset rather than a flaw, as we'd have to see into the future to see the item we would summon (say to take it away from an enemy), or we'd have to have certain game knowledge (say summoning o5's legs, and then later seeing o5).
As a result, if we cannot game the system to get around that fatal flaw, strategy would say we should avoid the usage of culture powers altogether.

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We've probably summoned more markers than we'll ever be able to see disapear but that doesn't cause any plot holes either.
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Hm true.

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