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Speaking of which, Wheat:

>Teach Fennel: Speedrunning
>Teach Windy: Speedrunning

A good tactic to find fun in a game where the fun is currently lacking.
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The best result is the one with the least bloodshed. The TCPs have no stake in this disagreement between gods, and to attack them for being caught in the middle is unfair and unjust.

I think the best solution is to propose a competition, a non-lethal contest like some kind of Olympic Games. Grind and Mardu's team of athletes vs Rein and Macaron's team of athletes, with ourselves serving as neutral ground to keep the peace. We have reason not to fight Grind/Prophet, and we have reason not to fight Macaron/Tasty. This ensures we remain an impartial third party. Whosoever loses will voluntarily surrender, without any TCPs coming to harm, and the winners will ally with us to end the game.

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11-29-2017, 10:24 PM
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Over here.
I heavily approve of this contest idea but I have doubts that anyone will agree to it. Worth a shot though.

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I agree that the TCPs shouldn't be forced to bear the brunt of inter-deity bickering. I think the fairest thing would be to tell them we regret hurting Fernando and want our actions going forward to minimise further harm to any TCPs, our own included. I would hope that's a philosophy the other gods could abide by.

Agreed that facilitating some kind of non-lethal contest to decide a winner(s) is ideal but not sure if we'd be trusted on all sides to be the mediator. A more convoluted way to resolve that would be five contests, each one hosted by a different deity, and temporary pair-alliances established between the remaining four deities?
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So we could host Game 1, which would be Grind+Marzu vs Macaron+Rein.
Rein hosts: Grind+Marzu vs Macaron+FC.
Marzu hosts: Grind pairs with either Macaron or FC, Rein pairs with Macaron or FC
Grind hosts: Marzu pairs with Macaron or FC, Rein pairs with Macaron or FC
Macaron hosts: Grind+Marzu vs Rein+FC.

I'd like someone to look over this but, assuming Macaron also supports a full diplomatic victory and the majority of people judge fairly (yes if Macaron+Rein+FC stick by the rules), Marzu+Grind can't throw the game so Rein loses without Macaron or FC winning and demanding everyone ally.
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Why are we teaching the cats to 'create fun' by speedrunning when we were the ones who sucked the fun out of the key puzzle?

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> Magic Magnet that has limited use and can attract whatever the user needs
> Note/Ribbit apologizing for making the puzzle harder and explaining the function of the Magic Magnet

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11-30-2017, 12:43 AM
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there's no way grind would agree to the funlympics and abide by its rulings when he basically considers rein a murderer for refusing to murder a murderer
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>Create: A bunch of hidden keys scattered throughout room with the key to the door be the only key in theme with the door.

I envision them to look like old school keys with two prongs, car keys with plastic heads, and fancy keys with a bunch of curves, engravings, and gems.

I also disapprove of teaching them speedrunning.
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Alright, nix the speedrunning. We'll make this adventure fun yet.

>Note: Fernando is okay, she's going by Prophet now. If you want, you could send a letter, and hopefully in the future you'll be able to talk in person!
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(11-30-2017, 09:10 PM)kilozombie Wrote: Alright, nix the speedrunning. We'll make this adventure fun yet.

>Note: Fernando is okay, she's going by Prophet now. If you want, you could send a letter, and hopefully in the future you'll be able to talk in person!

this is clearly a ribbit.

ribbit Wrote:yoooooo what the fuck

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Victory-by-conquest is not an option. We have to sort out Grind and Rein's beef with each other.
Or, failing that, find a way to pressure them into allying anyway.
Maybe TRICK them into allying anyway?

>CHECK STATUS: Everyone
>TEACH: Pacifism
>TEACH: Diplomacy
>TEACH: Seduction
>TEACH: Iterated prisoner's dilemma
>TEACH TUBES: Cryptography

>And maybe ask Grind more about Rein. Spit aside, is Rein trustworthy? What are its goals? How does it behave?
>Not to mention, it would be really useful to get to know Grind's TCPs.

Finally,
>CREATE: Guardian Hydra at the bridge leading out of our planet that will only let TCPs past if they're on the list. Right now, the list is just Windy, Fennel and Tubes.
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(12-11-2017, 09:26 PM)SeaWyrm Wrote:
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Victory-by-conquest is not an option. We have to sort out Grind and Rein's beef with each other.
Or, failing that, find a way to pressure them into allying anyway.
Maybe TRICK them into allying anyway?

>CHECK STATUS: Everyone
>TEACH: Pacifism
>TEACH: Diplomacy
>TEACH: Seduction
>TEACH: Iterated prisoner's dilemma
>TEACH TUBES: Cryptography

>And maybe ask Grind more about Rein. Spit aside, is Rein trustworthy? What are its goals? How does it behave?
>Not to mention, it would be really useful to get to know Grind's TCPs.

Finally,
>CREATE: Guardian Hydra at the bridge leading out of our planet that will only let TCPs past if they're on the list. Right now, the list is just Windy, Fennel and Tubes.

First of all, I am off put by many of your suggestions. I do agree on your Rein-Grind Dilemma points.

Second, I don't think we should teach them anymore while adventuring. I suggest the turning those TEACH commands into compressed books or magazines our cats can help themselves after the fun adventure. I think those knowledge and the fact they're many may derail the adventure and overwhelm our cats.

Third, I am not in line with guardian hydra idea. I feel like... that's a bit unnecessary, but nonetheless, Macaron did make herself a gate. Hydra is a fearsome choice of a guardian, and that has some issues on itself. I think the guardian should be about two TCPs tall, and wearing a bellhop outfit. Oh yeah, also better put a gate over there.
12-12-2017, 04:52 AM
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i vote for two tall amphibian guards, one who tells truths and one who tells lies, possibly combined into a single two-headed body to play into the hydra motif
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Quote:>TEACH: Pacifism
>TEACH: Diplomacy
>TEACH: Seduction
>TEACH: Iterated prisoner's dilemma
>TEACH TUBES: Cryptography
wary on doing any of this rn, but especially don't teach seduction ever Thank You, Please

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>TEACH: Subduction

EDIT: The problem with "one who tells truths and one who tells lies" is that we don't want getting into our space to be a puzzle, we want getting into our space to be as impossible as possible for anyone who has malicious intent.
So it's cool if one tells truths and the other lies... so long as that hasn't got anything to do with who they allow past.
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> CREATE MAGIC MAGNET

In order to speed up the puzzle process, you give the TCPs a new tool to use. Tubes takes it and uses it on the pile of keys, and it pulls a unique key out of the pile.

(Tubes’s health has gone from GREAT to GOOD as a result of magic item use. The Magic Magnet has 2 uses left.)

Fennel quickly tries the pumpkin key, and the padlock clicks and falls off, the double doors swinging open…

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The TCPs rejoice- this room is packed with treasure! They first open the three bigger chests, retrieving: a “dracula” costume, a “witch” costume, and a “ghost” costume. The smaller chest opens up to reveal a small hoard of golden candy replicas.

Your TCPs excitedly change into their new outfits, stuffing their old clothes and the candy treasure into their bags, and taking a plastic treat bucket of candy each, as they get ready to leave the Fungeon.


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> CREATE AIRSHIP

On their way out, you convey to them that there is something important they must help you with. You tell them that they can’t be friends with every other TCP in this world, and you’re being forced to pick someone to fight. They express quiet concern about this… and moreso when you explain that, unless you can force a third option, the TCPs will either end up fighting Tasty, or their previous friend Fernando, who now goes by Prophet.

Tubes isn’t sure why the other two TCPs are upset by this, and asks what you want them to do. You explain that you need them to visit each other team in the world so far; to talk to the other TCPs, decide who they get along with, and collect other useful information. Windy and Fennel warm up to this idea a bit as you detail: the deities caring for the other TCPs in this world don’t all like each other, but it may be possible to convince at least one of them to change their mind. Ideally, we could get all of them to ally for the sake of removing the necessity of TCP combat, but you’re not sure if that’s possible.

Fennel, for once, speaks up, asking why you don’t talk to the other deities about this more yourself, since your TCPs can’t talk to the deities directly. You tell them that you already tried, but you can try again, you just feel like you need backup from your cats.

For the purpose speeding up the process of getting to the other planets, you’re providing an airship for them to ride.

Windy asks if there’s anything else they’ll need on their trip. Tubes asks who’s going to pilot the airship.

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FROG-CRIMES: Hey Grind, us again
FROG-CRIMES: We need to discuss some things.

GRIND: Alright
FROG-CRIMES: So, you won’t ally with Rein, or anyone else who’s on the same team as Rein.
GRIND: Correct. Where are you going with this
FROG-CRIMES: As a god of Justice, we think this is unfair to the TCPs. They didn’t ask to be a part of this, so we feel we should put aside our differences for the sake of our TCPs safety.
GRIND: I also hold domain over Justice. And I am far. Far older than you
GRIND: I am not going to ally with Rein. I am never going to work with them. I have my reasons and I don't owe you a damn thing
GRIND: It is unfair to the TCPs. But allying with someone who is inevitably going to hurt them far more than this would be even less fair
GRIND: I will not endanger my charges. I will not subject them to its presence and I would hope you do the same
GRIND: I cannot control you and I will not try to. But if you're going to try to sway me on this
GRIND: You're better staying the hell out of my way.

FROG-CRIMES: u-um
FROG-CRIMES: okay okay okay, sorry, hold on. We want to ally with you, we just… really don’t want our TCPs to fight.

FROG-CRIMES: What if we did something different? What if we could win the game peacefully without allying Rein?
FROG-CRIMES: We could set up a contest, like, a sports competition for the TCPs-

GRIND: Stop
GRIND: Just stop
GRIND: You cannot circumvent the win condition and attempting to do so is only going to make Wax enter the game
GRIND: Focus on what you already know instead of making it more complicated
GRIND: You are giving me a terrible headache and I already regret this conversation
GRIND: So just. Stop
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> Stop.

> We were already told what we need to do, we can't just "ask" for people to toss away their morals for our sake, definitely when we do not understand the full situation. We must have evidence to back up our claims that we feel their morals are unfair. We don't have evidence yet. Lets go with our check out the TCP plan.

> Windy can drive the ship.

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Woah now.
Gotta press Grind on "is inevitably going to hurt them far more than this". What's that supposed to mean? What's Rein going to do?
Sounds like there's more to Grind's dislike of Rein than just the Spit thing, maybe.
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One thought I'm having, and this is probably a little too risky to actually try, is that it might not matter if Grind actually wants a peaceful end. All that matters is if Grind's TCPs want a peaceful end, and it's not entirely impossible that they're easier to convince.

Just floating that out there, though, I might be forgetting something.
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> We're sorry. It seems we're getting too big for our britches, or rather, lack thereof.
> We were just trying to find some alternative to any violence, however.
> We should have deferred to you other, older gods first.
> As large as our pool of knowledge is, we are quite uninformed on a lot about your world and it's customs.

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> Various animal plushies to gift to the other TCPs (Especially Frogs!)
> A random magic item

I agree that Windy should lead.

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Before departing, CREATE a guardian to leave behind for the event that another team launches an attack of oppurtunity in the TCPs' absence. Shape of a two-headed amphibian of some description, incorporating both our domain of AMPHIBIANS as well as our motif of HYDRAS. One head tells truth, the other falsehoods.
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one head tells truth, the other tells lies, and the third head speaks only in poetry — as we all know, a poet is a liar who tells the truth.
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You're right. We should stay out of your way. To that point, could your fight be 1 v 1, with the other two players staying out of your way too?

Then after you two have gone at each other, the three of us will ally with whoever wins. This way, the session ends with a lot fewer dead cats than if things were 3 v 2.


[<only if grind doesn't initially agree:>
Plus if the battle's all your own, you get to avoid the moral dodginess of two powerful gods strongarming ignorant bystanders (Rinzu and I being complete newcomers, and Macaron being pretty inexperienced too) into picking sides on your pre-existing feud.]

Sound good or no? If you agree, I'll ask how the other players feel about it.

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Wheat = yes.
Of course, we really do need to know what Grind's full beef is with Rein. If there's more to the story, maybe it turns out we want to fight against Rein after all.
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If we're going to leave a guardian behind, I demand it to be have a bellhop outfit. I suggest we also put a gate to keep away TCPs, as well as something the guardian can guard. I'm not too hot with the "one head that lies, and the other tells the truth" gimmick, but eh, I'm not too cool either to shoot it down altogether. I don't exactly have an alternative. Maybe "one head always tells a pun, and the other always rhymes."
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