Tiny Chat People

Tiny Chat People
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i suggest an infinite post office containing infinite randomly-generated letters for the cats to explore. most will be gibberish but somewhere in there will be the one that says the right things
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(10-10-2017, 05:15 AM)☆ C.H.W.O.K.A ☆ Wrote: »i suggest an infinite post office containing infinite randomly-generated letters for the cats to explore. most will be gibberish but somewhere in there will be the one that says the right things

i mean that's basically where we're at already


except your idea might actually produce good ones
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i think itd be funny and good if they did full-on cyberpunk hacking with the whiz kid computer so im in favor of it
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(10-10-2017, 05:25 AM)a52 Wrote: »
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if you give an infinite amount of frogs an infinite amount of computers, eventually they will make a singular Good Post.
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(10-10-2017, 05:10 AM)Wheat Wrote: »gloomy I will agree not to immediately suggest a different sort of hacker style computer and stick your the whiz kid plus computer for now if you agree that later on they will "level up" to hacker status once they join computer club in high school and find out just how bad dick cheney is, and convert their whiz kid plus into a fully fledged cyberwar rig in a montage set to euro techno music.

please agree/disagree to this now to prevent me vetoing your veto. there will be cyberpunk.

The whole reason I suggested a weaker computer-toy was to get them a better one in the future. Upgrading as they grow is a thing I'm all for. Like, by the end of this adventure... they'll probably have like... A Tablet Super-computer running a Star Trek LCARS OS that's connected to the trans-dimensional internet or something.

But, Toy -> Shitty 90s Laptop -> Slightly more Shitty Windows ME Laptop (because Love is Pain, Pain is Suffering, and Suffering is dealing with fucking Windows ME) -> Better Laptop (maybe a Mac Book or some shit) -> Smart Phone -> Tablet/Phone/Laptop.

Is the general progression I imagine, offhandedly.
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a steady progression of strong bad's computers
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A Compy 386 of the soul.
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While the concern that Tubes may be able to mess with us here in the internet is real, the letter of the law is that Tubes can connect any two computers on the plane. This leads me to believe that he can't do very much to us without entering his Ascended form. That said, we should be allowing for as much use of his power as possible - I've suggested a way he can create many computers very quickly, and spread them throughout the world for his own use.

I've also suggested that we give him expertise in computers. Windy and Fennel have mathematics and engineering already, so adding this third technical skill can give them the power to build robots as a team. This is good, not only from a strategic point of view, but from a relational one - we will have given them knowledge and tools that they can use to explore the world autonomously, while developing powerful technologies along the way. This gives them more power and choice in their own lives, and encourages them to work as a team.

Here is a link to my post in thread.
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(10-09-2017, 08:08 PM)Vic Wrote: »I've written a rough draft for our next letter addressing Windy's questions and giving the cats a suggestion on what they should do next.

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Create Letter:
"Dearest Windy, Fennel, and Tubes,

Why the new friend so soon after Fernando left?
> This world only allows us to create new cats when all cats on all teams are at 'home'. Fernando wasn't 'home'.
Fernando’s not coming back?
> Fernando is not coming back. Fernando has gone 'rogue'. She chose to leave the team because of our bad behavior.
You forced Fernando to kill something to try to prove that she needs to stay home?
> Some members of the collective wanted to create an incentive to urge her back home. It did not work as they intended.

We're sorry about what happened but it's what has happened and we are trying to do our best to improve. It's difficult working with all these conflicting viewpoints. Some are malevolent and some are benevolent. It's been hard. But we're trying, we want to try with you three. We promise to do the best we can to provide and care for you cats.
Now we think that it's time for you to go on an adventure. We are creating a dungeon on-planet when you can practice adventuring and show Tubes the ropes. This is also a great time for any of you to request any items, gear, clothes, or weapons
There were a few things mentioned in our first honest letter that you should do before leaving.

We couldn't apologize enough,
Frog-Crimes"

Create: Weapons Catalog

Message Marzu: Did you know that, where we come from, your name is part of the name of a cheese? It's a Sardinia sheep milk cheese that contains live insect larvae. It's a delicacy in some countries on our planet.

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Any thoughts? Anything we can do to change this letter, before I put it in the thread, for the better?

The Marzu message is a joke, btw.

The dungeon was suggested by learning-timebuster and I think it's a good idea. Give Tubes a place to practice before sending him out into the great wide maze.

I think that's a pretty good letter. I like the idea of sending this to the cats and actually telling them what's up with the whole RIP Fernando thing. If we do Wheat's "we trust you" cube of condolences, it can be after we've sent that letter explaining the situation.
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A character per post limit means people have to weigh what they suggest instead of suggesting a stoner's grocery list worth of items and niche concepts to teach tcps (one of which inevitably snowballs into something bad). also less overwhelming for cats

maybe people can use a limited number of Limit Breaks (1 or 2) that resets after the completion of each quest
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Ooh. Now you got me interested. It approve of this gambit.
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While interesting, I think that 140 characters is far too low.
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It could work better. Limiting ourselves.
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Thirding the 140 character cap to suggestions, it's a cool and challenging idea. I hate suggestions that just add everything the reader can think of to the game.
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really we should only be able to communicate with the TCPs through visual metaphors anyway, sending them literal letters seems kind of like a hamfisted thing for a supposed deity to do
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I disagree both with the dumb character limit rule and with "don't actually communicate with these people because...um..." (well there's not actually any good* reason not to). Both of them look to me like flavors of "hey look at this wonderful freeform game we can play! K now let's put arbitrary restrictions on ourselves to make it more difficult to do fun and/or effective things."

*-I mean, independence? When was the last time a non-insane parent actively decided to stop communicating with their child in WORDS and start communicating only in gifts and vague hand gestures? Oh, right that was NEVER.

But I suggest in this adventure so rarely that it doesn't actually affect me that much either way.
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I agree with some form of limiting the number of suggestions each 'player' can make, because the thread routinely turns into a clusterfuck due to trying to do too many things.
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5 creates and 5 teaches per suggester per update is not a restriction. it's like a 300mph road speed limit.

you could still do letters with a character limit, either by using one of your two limit breaks, or by just saying "Create: letter responding with truth (tinged with regret)" or something and it leaves the exact content of the letter up to author discretion

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at the very least i'd hope that we change our form of communication from letters to emails or tweets
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(10-11-2017, 08:29 PM)Xindaris Wrote: »*-I mean, independence? When was the last time a non-insane parent actively decided to stop communicating with their child in WORDS and start communicating only in gifts and vague hand gestures? Oh, right that was NEVER.

As far as we could see it didn't look like any of the other gods are doing it. If it was expected to be a regular thing it'd just be a feature and not a loophole we invented.

Plus we're way clingier than any parent should be, when was the last time any kid appreciated their parent barging into their room and delivering twelve conflicting and disgustingly self-flaggelatory messages every ten minutes? Oh right, that was never.

Our messages have rarely done anything other than salve our own conscience.
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I agree, I don't even think we can go around comparing ourselves to real life parents in a human sense anyway. Like most parents don't go around beaming info into their kid's heads without permission, only talking via notes, tossing items at them with no info behind it, and creating them with a purpose in mind and said purpose may or may not harm them pretty badly.

That or I totally got ripped off in the parent department. Where is my years of education beamed into my head instantly, and several friendly bees Mom?
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If we seriously are going to stop direct communication, at least in the way we've been doing it, then we should ask the other gods how they communicate with their cats. Instead of bumbling around trying to figure it out ourselves, because there are too many conflicting ideas about what we should be doing.

I honestly think we should take a step back, but recent suggestions are not taking into account the fact that we can't just cut them off. It would not only frighten them to suddenly find that we've stopped sending them letters but it would also be incredibly rude to not tell them that we won't be sending any more.

I made sure to include in our final letter that the cats shouldn't expect any more letters for that reason.
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To be honest, I'm not trying to act like a parent, nor did we even act like one. At best, we are acting like a decently responsible guy.
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The analogy to parents is obviously imperfect, but it's selected specifically to highlight how absurd the decision to not directly communicate is. Friends and national leaders are also among people who don't suddenly stop communicating directly and start talking in gifts and vague gestures--EVEN if the direct communication is conflicting or harmful at times. Really the idea basically applies to literally any relationship between people whatsoever except for maybe the most bizarre of acquaintanceships.
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(10-12-2017, 02:27 AM)Wheat Wrote: »5 creates and 5 teaches per suggester per update is not a restriction. it's like a 300mph road speed limit.

The same could be said of the 140 character limit, you could easily make, like, 15 things in one update if you didn't offer any explanation. 5 was just the number I came up with off the top of my head, we can change it to whatever we want whenever we want.
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(10-12-2017, 09:33 PM)Kanelel Wrote: »
(10-12-2017, 02:27 AM)Wheat Wrote: »5 creates and 5 teaches per suggester per update is not a restriction. it's like a 300mph road speed limit.

The same could be said of the 140 character limit, you could easily make, like, 15 things in one update if you didn't offer any explanation. 5 was just the number I came up with off the top of my head, we can change it to whatever we want whenever we want.

I said this already in the thread, thought I might as well bring it here - "I feel 2 CREATEs and 1 TEACH will be better.

I would also like to suggest limiting GIVEs to 2."
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