The Wander Island Incident - Day Four: LOST & FOUND ELECTION BONANZA [14/21]

The Wander Island Incident - Day Four: LOST & FOUND ELECTION BONANZA [14/21]
Niall who have you targeted, why shouldn't we lynch you, and in the meantime,

Vote: beruru
Elect: Coldblooded
I wanna be a real friend, Don't wanna break when I bend
I wanna a be no seeker, I wanna scream eureka
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(09-20-2018, 11:23 PM)Jacquerel Wrote: »Hi Niall why haven't the mafia shot you yet?

Excuse me? Oh no, no, no. I might have been gone for a while but don't even try that interrogative shtick on me. I'm an old hat at this, lest you forget. I've received at least one vote every day and everyone's read on me thus far has been middling at best with many people saying I've acted suspicious. I'm an easy, lazy lynch for someone who wants to get this day over with before we have time to examine the facts. A far more pressing question is why haven't you been shot yet Jac? Considering that the only vote you've received this entire time was a joke vote from your... spouse (I think I have the correct two people. You and Solaris right? Happened over the weekend, yes? Congrats to you both). You've had no attention cast your way since then and would make a much harder lynch. So why are you, Coldblooded, Palamedes and SleepingOrange all still alive? Between the four of you, you barely have two votes to your name this entire game. Any one of you would be much harder to lynch I would think. And yet here we are, Sai getting offed despite having 2 votes to their name and a hell of a lot of attention Day 1. I do not understand that part. Perhaps the mafia are trying to cast suspicion on Granolaman as Sai voted for them Day 3?

So when I entered this game I had 34 pages to get through. I skimmed a lot of it but kept a track of a tally of who's voted for whom. TehPilot strikes me as obvious town because no-one votes for their own scum team on Days 1, 2 and 3 like Pilot did to Airey unless you're cursed or something. I also can't see Solaris being scum seeing as that Airey voted for them Days 2 and 3. Granolaman was looking good to me even before they shot Airey in broad daylight and now I'm pretty comfortable with them being town. At least for now.

Given that fact I've decided to vote for the person who has voted for the players I trust the most so far. Beruru has only voted for two people: Granolaman on Day 2 and 3 and TehPilot on Day 3 despite the fact TehPilot all but lead the lynch on Airey. Beruru has received votes from LordlyHour and Granolaman Day 1, Palamedes Day 2 and nothing Day 3. Vote: Beruru Don't like who you've voted for and more importantly don't like when you voted for them. OK, I'm late for work now. Bye.
Is observing my own pattern of behavior of observing my own patterns of behavior a mental fractal or just navel gazing? Please advise.
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(09-20-2018, 11:54 PM)Solaris Wrote: »Niall who have you targeted, why shouldn't we lynch you, and in the meantime,

Vote: beruru
Elect: Coldblooded

Oh right, I forgot people might post things while I'm typing. Been a while. Uh, really gotta dash. Have I claimed something? Like I said, 34 pages. My read through focused on who voted for who. I ain't talking about the night unless Numbers already claimed a roll. OK, bye!
Is observing my own pattern of behavior of observing my own patterns of behavior a mental fractal or just navel gazing? Please advise.
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I was shot, did you like forget that
they didn’t try a second time yet
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Like I know you just had to read a lot of pages but we spent a lot of yesterday talking about it
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The reason I’m asking why you haven’t been shot was that you claimed a protective role for no reason on day one and Mafia have had plenty of time to murder you since
I know you just had to read a lot of posts but your response so far wasn’t a very good one
although I guess forgetting who your team shot is presumably something you would check and isn’t something mafia would do so easily so you have that going for you
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(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)Niall Wrote: »A far more pressing question is why haven't you been shot yet Jac?

Do you mean shot again? Cuz unless you think Jac and CB staged a no-kill gambit while they were in neck-and-neck competition for towniest townsperson of townsville, Jac and CB got clears.

Since we're no longer trying to pretend it didn't come up here's Numbers' claim as a refresher:
(08-23-2018, 07:28 PM)Numbers Wrote: »because according to my role I'm a person who prays to some deity to prevent the killing or lynching of another person.

Sai's flip puts the kibosh on my Blazergate theory, guess I'm starting from scratch. Meanwhile:
Vote: Schazer
Elect: x1372
Time to go thread diving!
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IT'S ELECTION TIME Votals

beruru - 2 (Solaris, Niall)
Schazer - 1 (Granolaman)

Abstaining - 11 (seedy, SleepingOrange, Coldblooded, Palamedes, Jacquerel, Robust Laser, LordlyHour, Schazer, TehPilot, x1372, beruru)

With 14 players alive it takes 8 votes to hard lynch, and 5 votes to soft lynch.

ELECTION Votals

Coldblooded - 1 (Solaris)
x1372 - 1 (Granolaman)


Abstaining - 12 (seedy, SleepingOrange, Coldblooded, Palamedes, Jacquerel, Robust Laser, Numbers, LordlyHour, Schazer, TehPilot, x1372, beruru)

Day ends in 114 hours, at 10pm CET on Tuesday, September 25.

Day End Countdown
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Folks please, it's still way too early to be playing the Why Aren't You Dead Yet wine drinking game. Scum's only had three kills so far and none of them have been particularly groundbreaking imo.

Like so far we've got:
Reyweld - Widely considered town, not high profile enough to be an obvious protection choice.
Jacquerel - B)
Sai - Blatantly claimed busdriver at day end yesterday, a role which may as well be called doctor-vig as far as scum's concerned.

Anyway, here's what the game looks like to me with NTA and Sai's flips:
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Laser looks ungood imo and Beruru looks double plus ungood.
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Seedy, Pala, Niall, x1372: Out of the other three people on this list, who do you think is the most and least likely to be scum?
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Sorry about yesterday, I underestimated how frazzled I’d get from international travel as well as how unavailable/flaky Wi-Fi would be
idk how much I’ll end up posting this day since I’m going back on Saturday but we’ll see

I think lordlyblazer is either town or the recipient of some high-tier coaching
I’d like RL to post more...I don’t like lynching people who are lurking and don’t pressure well...
I’d like to look at...pala more? since he’s the one left out of the active players whom I’m most unsure of
I still don’t get a great vibe from pilot but that might be playstyle preferences...I need to reread with more thought given towards flips and his previous positions, since apparently other people have turned around on him?

I think x1372 is the least likely to be scum...being in an acio replacement spot isn’t a great look but the replacement reason was getting to into it rather than “I’m bored cuz I can only play a town game.” also I don’t really see the annoyance towards pilot for voting as something scum (or at least x as scum) would fake
between Niall and pala obviously Niall looks worse...I haven’t gotten the positive “oh scum would NEVER say this” stuff out of numbers’ playstyle that other people (mostly acio) claim to see...but this is the kind of question I’d rather answer once the replacement has had more time to actually replace. as it stands I have a hard time having a strong opinion about the slot...and I want to look at pala more but that’s not “the mostest scum” territory
that airey wagon is...funny to look at
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Sorry I meant to post before bed and forgot and now I have to run but so far today:

Niall, besides being the first vote on Airey how did Pilot lead the lynch? You call out Jaq, Coldblooded, Slorange, and myself for surviving, between Slorange and myself who do you think is the more suspicious (you can add Jaq and Coldblooded to this question if you want but I don't really see how either of them could be scum outside of Sai lying I think).

Granola why are you electing x?

I think x is the most likely town so far out of Coldblooded's list, Niall is the most likely scum. Mostly based on play so far in the game, seedy is fairly neutral for me but I like their logic enough to beat the Numberslot. Also, same question I threw at Niall. Is Pilot town simply because they were the first vote on Airey?

seedy as far as I'm aware Blazer wasn't exactly new to mafia (and it's their play that makes people think that slot is town) I could see maybe arguing a crazy gambit but why coaching? Who do you think would be the high tier coach?

Elect: Solaris
Vote: beruru
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I put “lordlyblazer” and then immediately forgot to think about blazer’s play lol
I was foggily remembering my thoughts from an aeon ago where lordly’s newbie town comments resolved my lingering paranoia wrt blazer

I don’t think the item actually does anything but if it does I want sol to have it bc she’s the cutest and she’ll appreciate it
elect: Solaris

also I said I’d be flying on Saturday but it’s Sunday actually
I wanna relook at the thread before voting bc enough people are saying stuff that’s (slightly) different from what I think that I want to give things a non-jetlagged look
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which is to say...eh actually vote: beru, I thought she was at soft already for some reason but that was wrong
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(Yesterday, 02:33 PM)Palamedes Wrote: »seedy as far as I'm aware Blazer wasn't exactly new to mafia (and it's their play that makes people think that slot is town) I could see maybe arguing a crazy gambit but why coaching? Who do you think would be the high tier coach?

The Hypothetical Coaching in question, High Tier or otherwise, is, I assume, being assumed with reference to Me, Since I'm New to Serious Mafia and have taken over blazer's spot

Elect:Coldblooded
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Vote:Niall
Numbers play this entire time has left me feeling Uncomfortable and Niall Immediately trying to throw suspicion onto some of the Strongest communal townreads Continues that trend. Especially with
(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)Niall Wrote: »I've received at least one vote every day and everyone's read on me thus far has been middling at best with many people saying I've acted suspicious. I'm an easy, lazy lynch for someone who wants to get this day over with before we have time to examine the facts.
which, honestly Reads To Me like "I'm far too suspicious To Be Suspicious" which. Maybe if I were a Metagame Guru like some of y'all, this would make some degree of sense but I ain't and it Don't
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More Votals

beruru - 4 (Solaris, Niall, Palamedes, seedy)
Schazer - 1 (Granolaman)
Niall - 1 (LordlyHour)

Abstaining - 8 (SleepingOrange, Coldblooded, Jacquerel, Robust Laser, Schazer, TehPilot, x1372, beruru)

With 14 players alive it takes 8 votes to hard lynch, and 5 votes to soft lynch.

ELECTION Votals Pt. 2

Coldblooded - 2 (Solaris, LordlyHour)
Solaris - 2 (Palamedes, seedy)

x1372 - 1 (Granolaman)

Abstaining - 9 (SleepingOrange, Coldblooded, Jacquerel, Robust Laser, Numbers, Schazer, TehPilot, x1372, beruru)

Day ends in 96 hours, at 10pm CET on Tuesday, September 25.

Day End Countdown
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so like right now we're realistically at seven people who could be scum, the ones of whom im like "very die" as niall, pala, beru, and laser.

i have, meta gayming thoughts that i don't know if i should share but might if we continue to have no discussion today
I wanna be a real friend, Don't wanna break when I bend
I wanna a be no seeker, I wanna scream eureka
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Truth be told I had completely overlooked Sai indirectly claiming busdriver towards the end of D3. I don't agree with Niall's analysis in #852 knowing that since claiming a role that targets two people (at least in my usual perspective) is either busdriver or scientist which are super disruptive to scum. Basically what CB said in #859. I wouldn't think keeping Granola alive for wine purposes would be a stronger motive than killing a very disruptive role out in the open.

(Yesterday, 08:11 PM)Lordlyhour Wrote: »
(Yesterday, 12:12 AM)Niall Wrote: »I've received at least one vote every day and everyone's read on me thus far has been middling at best with many people saying I've acted suspicious. I'm an easy, lazy lynch for someone who wants to get this day over with before we have time to examine the facts.

which, honestly Reads To Me like "I'm far too suspicious To Be Suspicious" which. Maybe if I were a Metagame Guru like some of y'all, this would make some degree of sense but I ain't and it Don't

Inclined to agree with this. Niall's response reads defensively to me. Really want to see what elaboration is offered regarding nightactions (if any).

Elect: Coldblooded

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@Niall: you say you're an easy lynch for the day. What about the vote for Beru (the lynch you're favoring at the time of writing)?

@Granola: why Schazer?

@Slorange: you said Sai/NTA's flips would help with your read on x's alignment (#788); any thoughts on that now?

@RL: does Sai and NTA both flipping town have any significant impact on your view of the gamestate?
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@Pala: I'm electing x because I'm decently certain he's not scum at this point and if the keycard makes him a nightkill target it's not a complete loss. Everyone else on the Blazer push flipped town and I don't think Acio would've tried that angle on his own, plus even though I felt Acio was acting strangely it peters toward a "try and solve the game" town lean than a "bored" scum lean

@Pilot: I'm voting Schazer cuz I'm not ready to start lynching the lurker pool yet and would rather poke at a weak alibi. Although iirc you mentioned something exonerating them? If you've got something that'll eliminate them from the suspect list I'd love to hear it.

@Niall: Your predecessor claimed a protective role but between Sai's driving and CB's children-shields protection seems pretty well covered. Got any alternative explanations for your power?

Likewise @Beru: Got anything to say about your cleaning power yet? Or just anything at all?

@Seedy: Do you still think Schazer is lynchworthy?
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slorange and schazer have implied mechanical confirmation with each other and currently everyone is allowing that as a pass because slorange and schazer both going "yeah we're in this together" is a WILD LIE to do as a scum team with a lot more ppl in a Very Mechanically Confirmed zone? its like, "we can deal with this later" esp if they keep contributing enough/more than others?
I wanna be a real friend, Don't wanna break when I bend
I wanna a be no seeker, I wanna scream eureka
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beru said they didn’t know what was up with the cleaning stuff iirc

I still think schazer is iffy but...everyone seems to be putting them in a Tupperware and saving them for later, which I can’t really contradict the logic of...I also know that they are irl super busy so I don’t feel like pressuring them will be productive (otoh I think beru might be as well). two vaguely inactive players vouching for each other is a bad feel but at this point schazer IS in the lurker pool
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